Timeline for Could we take measures to alleviate some of the exasperation from deleted comments? Should we?
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| Sep 23, 2019 at 20:49 | comment | added | Mykazuki | @EmC I know I wasn't aggresive in my comments. ANd I dont think anyone remembers them so I dont think they are saying my comments were mean, what I am saying is that I have seen many comments deleted that were really not harmful. And what constitues helpful, well that is subjective. Sometimes we read into comments something that was not there. Of course I understand there are people that are actually aggresive, but we are deleting left and right, aggresive and not aggresive, without warning and without an easy to understand explanation and that makes people feel bad. | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 20:28 | comment | added | Mykazuki | @scohe001 oh really? yeah that wouldnt be good haha | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 20:19 | comment | added | Em C Mod | The threshold is 10k total reputation across the network :) @Mykazuki, I don't think anyone means you personally said something offensive! We're talking about general patterns on IPS - unfortunately there is a non-negligible amount of users who do comment on posts with no intent to improve them and spark unhelpful arguments. That's why the site started being more aggressive with removing comments that weren't clearly trying to be constructive. | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 19:42 | comment | added | scohe001 | @Mykazuki sorry I didn't make that more clear--I mean any 15k user in any chat on the network. There's no guarantee they'll have ever even visited IPS or have any idea of the context of the conversation. | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 19:40 | comment | added | Mykazuki | Well I know for a fact that the messages I wrote were not controversial and I wasn't being agresive. But also 15k users would have a better undestanding of the whole thing, so I don't really think it would have such a negative impact. The problem here is with users that are new to this site and don't understand all the harshness. | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 19:32 | comment | added | scohe001 | @Mykazuki flagged chat messages go to any user over 15k(ish? I believe?) rep and all the mods. So if IPS begins generating a large number of chat flags, it could be a very bad look for us. On top of that, if we're expecting heated topics and heated discussions, I'd rather start off overly cautious. And if we find ppl can be well-behaved after all then we can tone things down. | |
| Sep 23, 2019 at 19:28 | comment | added | Mykazuki | I have a doubt, why would it need any kind of proactive moderation? Chats die after a while. I think those chats wouldn't need proactive moderation, they would need reactive moderation. After a while they die so if people is going of the rocket, it will vanish and if needed I think users can flag those messages right? I don't know much about moderation on chat. Everyone seems to focus on the negative effects of some negative messages and not in the negative effect of deleting comments of people that did nothing wrong but not understand the policy or disagree in the way it is interpreted. | |
| Sep 20, 2019 at 18:35 | comment | added | scohe001 | I think you make a really good second point, @EmC, in that we may be causing more drama than there would be. My thought process here was to try this as an experiment to see what it'd look like if we allowed every (non-rude/abusive) passing comment to stick. It'd also serve as a good benchmark to point to as "look at what would happen if we let commeters say whatever where they want, this is why we need to remove comments." It is a bit of a radical view/solution though :) | |
| Sep 20, 2019 at 17:13 | comment | added | Em C Mod | I get the motivation but... the main things I'm worried about with this is 1) increased moderation load (hi, I'm the only US-timezone IPS mod and I don't like moderating chat :p), and 2) it might invite people to get into potentially quite heated exchanges that they might not otherwise get into, whereas if we waited until there was evidence of a good discussion potential to create a chatroom it would be less risky. | |
| Sep 20, 2019 at 17:12 | comment | added | Ael | Sounds like the recipe for a disaster with rude messages flying everywhere. I'm one of the current RO of your main chatroom and I will definitively not volunteer to moderate such a chatroom. It might be fine for non-controversial topics, but we all know HNQ loves nothing more than controversial topics. | |
| Sep 20, 2019 at 16:55 | history | answered | scohe001 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |