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See here's the thing about that... It wasn't a bad answer, or a wrong answer, it was just an answer that you happened to personally disagree with. That's about it. Your disagreement doesn't make the answer a straw man, or a political rant, it's still just an answer that you happen to personally disagree with. If you really need evidence of the fact that it ...


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So, I've been sitting and reading and thinking for some time now about what everyone's written in comments and answers here. I think I'd like to reiterate, emphasize, and expand on a point Arwen Undómiel brought up in the question. Comments can't be downvoted or edited. That's important on a site like Interpersonal Skills. Answers here do more than just ...


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June 25: Experiment has ended Ok! It's been about two months since this started, and I've turned off the altered comment text. This should be enough to give us a reasonable idea of what effect was had by this change. With less to watch on TV, I've had time to fix a few serious errors in my initial query and also adjusted the method for associating edits ...


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Don't argue in the comments on the main site. You can read more about this here. This isn't a discussion site. It is a question and answer site. The only reason the main site has comments is to improve the questions and answers. Comments are to be used to ask for clarifications or add more information. It says this in the text box before you answer a ...


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A quick update on this request: Yes, the Community Team has submitted a request to have this feature change implemented using Interpersonal SE to test it. Acceptance by the dev team is still pending, but with the pent up demand and backlog of feature-requests, it is still unclear how this will be prioritized. If it is accepted, the date of completion is ...


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Comments are great for nit-picking. "You stated that nutria were released into the wild in the 1940s, but in fact this was first done in the 1930s..." - that kind of thing. When the entire answer is wrong, misleading, dangerous or not even wrong... A comment is probably insufficient to address it. Yes, you can spend all day posting more comments and arguing ...


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I disagree with the idea that comments are for improving posts; that's what edits are for. To quote the help that can be accessed when adding a comment: Comments are used to ask for clarification or to point out problems in the post. Or, to crib from the help center, comments are like Post-it Notes. Unfortunately, comments use some sort of industrial-...


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Your comment was flagged as No Longer Needed along with others. I was the moderator who handled these comment flags. Since your comment was not suggesting improvements or asking for clarifications, it was removed. Though, this may be an exceptional case where such comment can be allowed. If an OP is asking for professional help or in need of professional ...


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One quick thing to note, right off the bat: The four Meta SE posts you cite are nine years old. The network was really, really different back then. Honestly, it wasn't even a network, it was maybe a handful of sites, still focused on computers and tech. Things have changed a lot since then. Nine years ago, nobody could have anticipated the existence of IPS. ...


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This rule is implemented so nobody goes downvoting every answer they don't like. If you lose reputation for down-voting, you will think about it before casting it. This was also put in place so users don't abuse the system by down-voting excessively and indiscriminately. From this answer on main meta: According to what Jeff/Joel discussed on the SO ...


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The first comment... Just chiming in to say not being able to say 'Sorry' after a car accident is a very American thing. 'Sorry' means different things in different countries. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's adding a bit of information that is relevant, by mentioning that saying 'Sorry' means different things in different cultures, which is ...


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Conveniently, it looks like your comment was captured in chat. It was posted on this question, and read: Not an answer, but you should not do it not just because it is a fraud, but also because marrying implies a series of consequences that may force you to have to support her financially for the rest of your life. This is not asking for clarification or ...


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I think the point here is that there is a clear divide in how the community thinks this situation should be approached. The fact is though; this site operates on community consensus; not what you think is right. There were a lot of comments discussing the particular answer you're talking about. Those got migrated to chat because it was quite a lot of ...


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If comments are actual clarifications, they should be added to the OP and then deleted. If they are answering the question, they should be changed into an answer and then deleted. If they are adding other information not applicable to the question/answers directly, they are off-topic and should be deleted. If the comments are suggested improvements to ...


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No, we don't get notified when our comments are removed. Although sometimes CMs and mods do leave comments to notify the users encouraging them to post an actual answer, it is not to be expected of them. They are doing a favor. The best approach is to know beforehand that all comments are ephemeral. If it is to be later added to an answer, take a copy of ...


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TL:DR All the categories of comments you mentioned aren't asking for clarification or suggesting improvements, and since that's what's comments on SE are for, they are removed. Ideally, these are removed as soon as possible to avoid setting a precedent for others or to prevent arguments that can turn quite nasty. Ideally, these comments are removed by ...


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We are currently doing an experiment where users are encouraged to suggest improvements, rather than leave comments. Comments on this site work differently than others. They are supposed to be only for suggesting improvements or requesting clarification. We are trying to see if by making the text say "suggest improvements" rather than "add a comment" we ...


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TL;DR: While we use the same standards as the rest of the network, there are two main differences in how we implement them: We are extremely strict on comments. If your comment doesn't fall under the "You should submit a comment if you want to:" header, it will be removed. Thanks to our bot and user base, we moderate comments fast. Are there secret rules ...


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I'll post the text of the two comments of yours that were deleted, just for posterity: You've planted the seed of doubt, she'll probably not admit it, but she's already thinking about what you said. Religious differences and the upbringing of children should be discussed before committing oneself to marriage. and I'm sorry to hear that. Give her time ...


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Yes Yes Yes. This is a great idea. I know your pain, I have 232 comment flags, 28 alone today and yesterday are waiting for review and 188 helpful in 27 days! This is madness. I feel it's even more important on this website because everyone has some form of interpersonal skills at all different levels and have opinions on other people's interpersonal skills ...


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It's funny is exactly why it's removed at such a young age. Or it might invite more such funny anecdotes. Although SE as a whole does leave some funny comments alone for a bit longer, the situation is different on IPS... Almost every question would invite such anecdotes in the comments. We do not want that. :) That said, you are very welcome to share any ...


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We are pretty strict about comments on this site. They're intended for other users to ask for clarification and suggest (concrete, constructive) improvements to a post, and are explicitly not for extended discussion. We've had many, many previous discussions on IPS about comments - see the comments tag to get an idea. The help center article on commenting ...


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The number of comments on a post is denormalized, stored as a simple integer attached to the post itself. This is updated when comments are added or deleted, but the update isn't atomic - that is, the count can become inaccurate if two of those actions happen at very nearly the same time: deletion #1: retrieve comment count (2 comments) deletion #2: ...


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If I'm reading this correctly, your goal is to get something of a high-level picture of how comments are used (and abused) on this site. The following data covers all comments posted on Interpersonal Skills for its entire history, unless otherwise noted. It includes deleted comments and comments on deleted posts; the latter are treated identically to ...


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When we say that comments need to "ask for clarification" - we mean that. Your comment is an argument. It's stating your preferred action and why the answer is wrong. This is not asking for clarification. This is non-productive. Consider - I've just told you that your comment is wrong/outside intended use. How does that feel? Does it make you want to ...


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Short of a diamond mod actually telling you, there's really no way to know. If you suspect comments are being deleted unfairly by the community, you can flag the parent post for moderator attention and they can look into it. But comments on the whole are treated as third-class citizens, so they're pretty much by design allowed — expected, even — ...


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The earlier answer by @AJ is fundamentally correct in saying that this rule is implemented so nobody goes downvoting every answer they don't like. If you lose reputation for down-voting, you will think about it before casting it. May I only add from personal experience that a nominal -1 loss of reputation for casting a downvote or -2 for getting a downvote ...


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Ideally, yes, comments should look like the transcript of a copy-editing session, for the most part. Everyone likes a little bit of fun. But fun's only good when it doesn't get in the way of the serious stuff. If you've got two or three people making funny comments on a post, and one person trying to engage in constructive criticism to make it better . . . ...


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Firstly - I'm going to get out of the way that this question is probably a poor example to use for this meta discussion. Be that as it may, it's the example that you've used and - to be honest - it's more overtly pushing the line than any questions we've had in the past (as far as I'm aware). The closest thing that we've had that people were concerned about ...


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