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The tweet has been deleted, but it was a screenshot of 3 questions. First, How to approach a friend about his girlfriend asking to sleep with me?. Secondly, How do I tell students at a school I volunteer at to stop flirting with me?. And finally, Story about aliens nicknamed 'Eechees' who have created a network of tunnels on Mars With a comment saying (...


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Yes, I think we should go back on HNQ We had a discussion about this last month, and the consensus was that we do eventually want back on HNQ, but that we shouldn't do it yet. I can't speak to the other answers, but my answer to that question where I suggested we wait was based on the (then) current state of HNQ. The problems we had with HNQ were based ...


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Update: As of... just now (20 May 2019), the site setting for minimum question age should be active and we've added IPS back to the HNQ list with one question at a time. Please keep me updated on how things are going. Thank you so much for hanging in there with us. It's been a hard six months and I'm really excited to see how this changes the traffic here ...


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Let's stay off for now. There's no denying that HNQ definitely brought us a lot of traffic, and that we need traffic as a site to survive. That's self-evident. The problem is, a lot of the traffic that HNQ gave us was.... negative. We had endless streams of comments, floods of answers that didn't meet our standards, and people not familiar with the site ...


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I spent a while reading through IPS's old meta discussions on the HNQ - the two you linked to (1, 2), as well as some slightly older stuff (3, 4). After sifting through them all, I've isolated some of the main concerns with being on the HNQ that have been popping up again and again: While we got more traffic from the HNQ, we got too much - and, moreover, a ...


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So, first off, I want to get a few things out of the way. Hi to all my lovely IPS friends! This removal from the HNQ is temporary. How temporary will depend on a few things. It will probably last at least until next year but I'm hoping to turn a negative into a positive and use this to really see what effect the HNQ has on this site. More on this in a bit. ...


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I don't think this will help. The attention we get from the HNQ list is a symptom of a larger issue and I think that shutting it off would only make the underlying issues less apparent. Are the HNQ posts problems? These questions drive traffic to the site which makes more users aware that we exist and makes us more likely to find new active users. They also ...


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Does IPS want to be back on HNQ? Yes!! I don't think there is a single IPS user I've talked to in chat or heard from on meta that is happy with this change. I know you're not focusing this question on "the way it came to be" that we're now excluded, but it honestly plays a big role. My knee-jerk reaction was "noooo put us back!" My first thought was for ...


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Not really. In my opinion, the number of answers shouldn't be the only reason to remove a question from HNQ. There could be good answers and remember the answers can still be added even after removing from HNQ. There are other factors must be taken into account before making that decision. To repeat EmC's answer regarding when we should remove a question ...


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I would be okay with starting with one or two, and practicing and honing our skills of editing question titles and content, to make sure that whatever does get on the HNQ represents us as best as we can. As we improve the site scope and question styles, and people become familiar with how IPS operates, then I would be okay with upping it to 3, then I ...


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This is later than I would have liked but having a couple of months of data rather than one or two does give us a bit more information. Could wait until Friday and have another month but... eh... For moderation stats, Shog posted some info here that's worth looking at, though I'm guessing most of y'all have read it already. To start out, here are some ...


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I think this is somewhat backwards. If the community cannot handle the questions through the normal means of self moderation, then you're not ready for the question yet. That's the angle to approach this from. Rather than lowering the bar to let more people "protect" more questions, I'd sooner see something like this implemented — A moratorium on hot ...


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I chatted with the other mods about going back on HNQ, so here's my thoughts.. TL;DR, we should remove: When the OP requests it When it’s attracting negative attention because of issues that can’t be handled otherwise First, what can we fix without this tool? Here are the main problems I see happening with HNQ questions.. Title HNQ removes all extra ...


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tl;dr If the question is not answerable as is, close it. If it's attracting bad answers, protect it. If all other options are exhausting and it's still bringing too much bad content, remove it from HNQ. When a question hits HNQ that we feel is incomplete (there are unaddressed comments asking for clarification), the course of action to take depends on how ...


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I would prefer that moderators see this tool purely as a last resort, as it seems like that was the reason it was added. It sounds like most problems with the HNQ can and should be handled in other ways. Edit, vote, vote to close, delete and/or move comments to chat, delete rude and/or bad faith answers, etc. If we really want to limit topics from ...


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I vote no because everyone needs to start somewhere. HNQ tends to attract low quality answers, but some new users post great answers on HNQ. If we protected all HNQ automatically, we would prevent any new users from providing answers to some of our most interesting questions and prevent them from easily joining our community, as HNQ are the questions that ...


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I already posted this here (7 upvotes, no downvote) but since the question was split into two, here we go again: I just wanted to point that, in my opinion, if an OP asks that their question be remove from HNQ, their request should be respected. Also, I believe that OP should be made aware of this possibility when their question hit HNQ (so that they don'...


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Here are some data that I got from the Site analytics page (>5k users only). The data are from the 2018-Feb-10 to the 2019-Feb-07 and each point represents a week (not a day). Data about posts Data about votes Data about traffic


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During our respite from HNQ, community moderation efforts have been focused on cleaning up older questions on the site. This included deleting a lot of VLQ answers on old HNQ messes. Can we account for this cleanup in the data somehow? Is this cleanup potentially skewing data you're working on?


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I'll respond to this individually, but in a broad sense, we've been fixing issues with the hot network questions list with duct tape and regular expressions for years now. I just kicked off a discussion on MSE about why that's not working at scale, and why we need to revisit what we hope to get out of the feature. In short, IPS has some really good content. ...


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Use Your Downvotes If you see a bad answer, step 1 is to downvote it. The way to fight bad content is to delete it. The community can only delete posts if they have a negative score. That will only happen if we downvote the bad answers. Flag things I typically use the not an answer flag on answers with no backup. That'll kick it into the LQP queue and we ...


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For the number of question we want on HNQ at the same time, I believe we should start slow. To me, if we go too fast, things might get "out of hands". However, I don't see any danger in going too slow. This is why I believe we should start at one HNQ question. Another argument for starting with only one HNQ question is that it's going to give us time to ...


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I think an additional version of the FAQ will just add more noise on meta, and won't make people any more likely to read it. I strongly suspect that the majority of users visiting from HNQ who leave chatty comments or write answers without backup do so because they just happened upon our site and jumped into participating. (Would be great to get data on ...


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Transferred from the original question Gonna back up my statements here with more explanation. "I believe that the mods and the community can communicate, to get at least a general agreement to remove the question that got on HNQ." Mods and the community can bring up these discussions in meta and in chat, and see how the community stands. I know that it ...


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However, shouldn't we have protected these questions first? And maybe add some kind of banner at the top of the question? No. And perhaps a bit yes. Protecting is a preventive measure, HNQ removal is a reactive one. Protecting questions instead of pushing them out of HNQ isn't an option. Ideally, the posts would've been protected before they got bad enough ...


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This post explains how we've been dealing with unsupported answers on IPS. TL;DR, flag as "not an answer" (often shortened to "NAA"). So here's what I'd propose as a strategy for everyone using the site: See an answer that's unsubstantiated Post a comment to the effect of... No, y'know what, I had a generic example here but that was a bad idea. ...


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tl;dr Let's wait just a bit Some Data I left a comment with some data in it yesterday, and I'd like to expand on that a bit. The text of the comment in case it gets deleted at some point: My first inclination was to say that we rely too much on the mods to delete things for us, so I went looking for data to back that up. What I found is that since the ...


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I'm not even sure it's technically possible but I can ask the CMs. Personally, I don't really think we need this. The moderators get an auto flag when a question hits 10 answers or 20 comments on the same post but I've been reluctant to protect questions too much. If you feel that a question is getting a lot of bad attention, please flag it, like Zizouz212 ...


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Bearing in mind that we're currently running on 0, I don't see why we don't simply ramp up one at a time until we break past the sweet spot and then reduce back down to that number if we go past it. For all we know, 1 might even be our limit considering the clickbait-y nature of the questions that hit HNQ last time. We risk trying 3, then 2 and when neither ...


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I might just be talking about me here but I think this a good question who was asked too earlier. It's not even been a week since the "HNQ ban" and now it's the weekend and none of us know how it feels like to be out of the HNQ list. So, am I made that we are totally out of HNQ and that we are the only site who suffer from that treatment? ...


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