Timeline for Is Stack Exchange a site for adults to respectfully and civilly work together as adults and peers to answer questions?
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 18:09 | comment | added | HDE 226868 Mod | @Aaron You keep asking for respect and civility. If you really want that, please stop insulting other users; it's not helping your point. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:59 | comment | added | Tinkeringbell Mod | @Aaron could you stop playing with Shog? They have better stuff to do. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:52 | comment | added | Aaron | @Shog9 Was that a response to Kate? Kate suggested that I need to write more clearly, so I am asking her what is confusing. I understand that her claiming I need to write more clearly without explaining what could actually be improved is a weak argument and is rude, but please do not scare Kate away from answering my request for constructive criticism. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:30 | comment | added | Shog9 | There's nothing confusing here. Projecting confusion onto others when they don't give you the response you want them to is weak sauce; for all your words, your intention is clear and you've received multiple responses now to confirm that. Now stop being rude to the folks who were willing to play your little game and go find something more productive to do. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:28 | comment | added | Em C | @Aaron The "policy" you describe in the question was not "meta discussions cannot have any comments on the question", it's "mods can remove comments at will". In your case, you left an off-topic comment after a mod had said to stop leaving comments and write an answer instead. "Off-topic comments will be deleted" is a very standard SE policy. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:26 | comment | added | Aaron | @KateGregory Perhaps, in order to understand people clearly, you could stop attributing things to them which they never said. You take statements I make and distort them into something completely different which I never stated nor advocated for. Stop trying to fill gaps and just read the text for what it is. You have yet to suggest where I have been confusing. Please help me. Explain what is confusing and I will try to clarify. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:24 | comment | added | Aaron |
@JMac That is yet another straw man; people, please stay on topic or at least within context. The first 4 sentences of your comment go right along with what I have been saying. Only your last comment separates from what I have said, and then suggests that I have somehow suggested that my opinions override site policies, a suggestion which is unfounded. Show me where there is a long established site policy that says "meta discussions with discussion tags cannot have any comments on the question." It does not exist because that is absurd.
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:22 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | I am done. You are not expressing yourself clearly and simply repeating "That's not what I meant" doesn't help anyone. I hope you end up feeling less attacked when comments get deleted, which they will. A lot. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:20 | comment | added | Aaron | @KateGregory The quotes you just provided are not saying the same thing as your previous comments. You are making a big leap to go from those quotes to your previous comments. You are assuming that I mean something more than what I say. You have not yet made a case for your previous comments. "I believe mods deleting comments in meta which question SE meta activity is abuse" is in no way even comparable to "I believe comments should only be deleted when I say they should." I'm advocating for mutual respect, which is exactly the opposite of what you are claiming I am advocating for. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:54 | comment | added | JMac | "I believe that deleting comments in meta which question a moderator's authority is an abuse of power." Moderators have the power to moderate. If they think the comments should be removed or migrated; that is well within their power. It's well established in the SE system that you can never assume your comments will last. I'm not sure why your opinions about comments should override long established site policies. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:52 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | "I believe that deleting comments in meta which question a moderator's authority is an abuse of power." Tell me how I am minsinterpreting that? "our attempts at working together as adults resulted in big brother coming in and deciding anything that crosses what they say gets moderator action," how does that not mean that you, rather than the moderator, should decide which comments stay? If you think you're being misinterpreted, write more clearly. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:49 | comment | added | Aaron | @KateGregory Please stop saying that I have said things that I have not only not said, nor implied, but which I do not even believe. I do not understand how you can claim I said or feel something which I do not even believe. I specifically do not feel the way you say in your comment, and I feel (and have said as much here) *just the opposite. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:47 | comment | added | Aaron |
@KateGregory Once again you make false assumptions. I did not say "chatty comments should not be deleted unless I think they should be", nor ever imply that. In fact, I specifically stated in an answer over at the linked area that comments should be self-contained, not requiring any further discussion. Here, I have said that it is a known and accepted thing that it is relaxed slightly for meta because this specifically is a discussion (even has discussion tag), so we need to be able to discuss it.
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:35 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | Ye,s you did. You feel that comments (even chatty ones) should not be deleted unless you think they should be deleted. You think having a different opinion about what is "too much" is abuse of power. You think meta-meta comments like "I had a comment here about all the other comments being deleted, but it was removed" should be allowed to stay and that if someone removes them they aren't giving you the respect you deserve. All of this you have written in the question and this answer. And to put it bluntly, you're wrong. Comments get deleted. That is a "law of physics" of these sites. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:24 | comment | added | Aaron | @KateGregory Unfortunately you have made a straw man argument since I never asked for any of the things you just mentioned. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 16:16 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | Unfortunately you do not get to declare that allowing arbitrarily large numbers of comments, whether or not they are rude, whether or not they are chatty, whether or not they are obsolete, to accumulate on a question is the definition of respect and adultness. You want to be treated as a peer, that's good, and I hope you are treated as a peer, but peers don't invent new rules and demand that other users, including those specifically tasked with enforcing the old rules, enforce your new ones instead. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 15:56 | history | answered | Aaron | CC BY-SA 3.0 |